What Metals Can I Use in Orgonite?

One question that many newcomers have is “what metals can I use in orgonite?. Hopefully you’ll find some helpful info here.

Metal Shavings/ Swarf in Orgonite

metal shavings swarf orgoniteMetal shavings, or metal swarf as it is also called, is the best option for metals in orgonite, and this is what most orgonite-makers use.  The best way to get hold of scrap metal shavings is to ask any local garage or shop that works with metal if they have any scrap shavings that you can have – or buy for a low price.  These metals are usually taken to recycling centres, but often the garage or shop-owner will be happy for you to do the work of getting rid of it for them.  You can also buy metal shavings online

It’s important to consider the size of the shavings.  The more surface area the metal has (i.e. the smaller the pieces), the more effective it will be in transforming energy.  But you don’t want the metal pieces to be too small either.

BB Gun Pellets in Orgonite

I have not personally used this, but many people use BB gun pellets in their orgonite with successful reports.  If I were to use them, I would add other, smaller and more uneven sources of metal as well – however I can’t really speak for how the size and shape of BBs affect the orgonite as I have not come into contact with any. Feel free to enlighten me in the comments section 🙂

Metal Scrubbers in Orgonite

Copper scrubbers orgoniteThis is one of the most popular metals for newbie orgonite-makers who don’t yet have acccess to metal shavings.  When I made my first few batches of orgonite, I used steel and copper pot scourers cut into little bits, and it worked perfectly!  They are easy to get hold of, and fairly cheap. The only downside is that it can be a bit tedious to cut them up.  Also, please wear protective eyewear when cutting them up as little bits of metal may fly into your eyes.  Before I got protective goggles, I just wore sunglasses, and cut the scrubbers up in a plastic bag to prevent the metal bits flying all over the place.

Other Ideas for Metals in Orgonite

  • Aluminium cans (coke, beer, etc) cut up into pieces that are roughly 1 cm². I felt that this was harder work than cutting up the pot scourers, but if you have patience then this can work.
  • Aluminium foil scrunched into little bits.  This didn’t feel as effective when I tried making orgonite this way, but is better than nothing if you don’t have any other options.
  • Gold flake. I like adding a bit of gold flake to my orgonite pieces as I feel it makes them stronger.  Making orgonite with nothing else but gold flake is very expensive, but it does look stunning!
  • Metal powders, such as iron oxide powder, can be a good addition to orgonite, especially for personal pieces like pendants. However it’s recommended that you also add regular-sized metals, as well as crushed-up crystals to accompany the larger crystal, otherwise this “high-density” orgonite can be less efficient – absorbing more negative energy than it cleans.  Just as metal pieces can be too large, they can also be too small.
  • Screws, nuts and bolts – Some people use these but they are not recommended, unless they are only your secondary metal source. The pieces are too large to be effective.

Different Types of Metals for Orgonite

Now that we’ve discussed the different scrap metal types that can and can’t be used in orgonite, let’s take a look at the different types of metals.

Aluminium in Orgonite

This is the most commonly used metal in orgonite, mostly because it is light (making it good for transporting, and for personal pieces that you wear such as orgonite pendants), easy to get hold of, and inexpensive.  There has been some controversy over whether aluminium is “safe” to use in orgonite since the metal is toxic when ingested.  However, most long-term orgonite makers and those who are sensitive to energy will tell you that aluminium is fine to use.  This quote, by Emlong from Warrior Matrix forum sums up how I feel about the issue:

Aluminum is all about context. It is one of the most abundant elements on earth. Most clays are alumina, and many minerals are aluminosilicates. Were aluminum inherently bad our planet and much of the universe would be a constant Hell for biological organisms. Of course, in certain forms and in certain relationships aluminum can be toxic, but that is true of most any element in the periodic table. In orgonite, I personally find that aluminum brings a sort of “high” energy as compared to copper which feels more grounded. Some of us like to mix the two.

Source

Aluminium is the main metal I use in my orgonite (along with fine brass shavings), and in fact I prefer it to other metals I have experimented with.

Copper in Orgonite

Copper is another metal which is commonly used in orgonite, especially for personal pieces. A small disadvantage I have found is that the shavings I tend to get hold of are quite heavy and sink to the bottom of the mould, however when I used copper pot scrubbers I didn’t have this problem.

Gold in Orgonite

One of the most treausured metals on earth, gold is a wonderful addition to orgonite. Franz Bardon – one of the most important and respected hermetic practitioners of the 20th century – talks about a device that is eerily similar to orgonite in his book “Initiation Into Hermetics”. He calls it a “fluid condenser”. The fluid condensers consist of resins and metals, and are used to “store and retain at their discretion the energies or powers which were placed into them through concentration”.  Bardon states that:

Resins and metals belong above all to the principle group of solid fluid condensers; among metals, gold ranks the highest. The tiniest traces of gold, even atomic particles, confer a fabulous ability of condensation to any liquid.

Bardon’s fluid condenser lacks the crystal quartz, which makes it more suitable for accumulating energy like Reich’s orgone accumulators. However, even with the addition of crystals, gold makes a powerful ally.

Steel in Orgonite

From my experience and from anecdotes that I have heard, steel makes a good metal for orgonite. My first orgonite chakra set was made with steel pot scrubbers, and my Quantum Touch healer friend used these with her clients and had a lot of success.

Brass in Orgonite

The brass shavings I have been able to get hold of are quite fine, and make a good addition to smaller pieces such as orgonite pendants.

For more information on the effects of different metals in orgonite, check out my post on Orgonite and Kirlian Photography.

How Much Metal Should I Use?

How much metal in orgonite

It’s usually recommended to use a 50-50 ratio of metal to resin in orgonite. While this isn’t set in stone, it’s a good guideline to go by.  Many pieces of orgonite have areas that contain no metal- for example, the tops of my pyramids where you can see the crystal sticking out. However, the rest of the pyramids contain a 50-50 mix of metals and resin.

Orgonite Without Metals

There is a lot of “orgonite” out there which seems to have very little or no metal at all. While they are often beautiful and may have some effects due to the crystals contained inside them, I don’t think it’s fair to sell this as orgonite.  Orgonite is based on Dr Reich’s discovery that organic materials attract orgone energy, while metals simultaneously attract and repel them. By mixing metals and resins, the attraction and revulsion of energy creates a scrubbing effect, which, along with the piezoelectric effect of the quartz crystal, cleans and balances stagnant and negative orgone energy.

To find out about more of the ingredients which are used in orgonite, check out my article on orgonite-making supplies.

30 Comments on What Metals Can I Use in Orgonite?

  1. I use wax instead of resin. Easier to get. Easier to work with. No toxic outgassing. Works fine. Maybe better than resin because it’s alive.

    • Hi Steve,
      Yes, a lot of people do use wax. You won’t get the piezoelectric effect though as it doesn’t shrink like resin, and for that reason many people will say it’s not as effective as resin orgonite. But I haven’t tried it so I don’t have a strong opinion either way yet – great that it works for you 🙂 I like resin because it’s easy to make artistic orgonite with it, and the outgassing doesn’t matter if you have the right protective equipment and ventilation.

      Not so sure what you mean about wax being alive though. Do you mean in the same sense that crystals have their own consciousness?

  2. Hi, I’m new to Orgonite, and am wondering about stainless steel in particular. I have a source for small round pieces that have been punched out of a larger piece. They will be symmetrical, and from a metal you don’t mention. What are your thoughts?
    Thanks

    • Hi Vee,

      I made my first orgonite pieces from stainless steel pot scourers and they worked fine 🙂 I have never used symmetrical pieces. I have heard people say that asymmetrical is better, but then I have also seen people use the kind of pieces you mention. I say why not! Use whatever you can in the beginning, it will still work if its metal in resin with a piezoelectric crystal. Would be great to hear how it goes.

  3. Hi Karin.
    I am going to do my first orgonite but have no source of metal shavings. Could you tell me when I can get them? Thank you. Anna

    • Hi Anna,
      Have you tried contacting metal shops in your area? If that doesn’t work out, I do have a bit of spare metal, if you email me at orgonise ((@)) gmail.com, I could send some to you for the cost of postage.

  4. Hi, this will be my first time making orgonite, I know this may sound repetitive but I was wondering can I use sand size pieces of metal shavings? My husband works in a shop and thats what they usually have. Thank you!

    • Hi Jessica,

      I use sand-sized brass shavings in my orgonite pendants and I think it makes a good addition. However, I would recommend mixing it up with a few larger pieces too. The general consensus is that the finer the metal particles are, the more effective the orgonite is, BUT it will have a smaller range. So using only sand-sized pieces would be great for a personal pendant, but less so if you want to ‘orgonise’ a whole room. How about using cut-up copper or steel pot scourers as well as the shavings for larger pieces?

      I will say though that this is just from what I have gathered from various sources – I recommend you try it out yourself and see what works for you. Since orgonite is difficult to measure, no-one really knows 100% what works best. The best thing to do is experiment with different pieces, and see how it affects you personally.

      Best of luck! 🙂

  5. Hi 🙂

    I’m so glad to come across your website.
    Thank you so much for the suggestion of using stainless steel pot scourers!
    I’m excited to make my second batch of orgonite 🙂

  6. Hi there,
    Ive been researching orgone accumulators and resin casting orgone, I was wondering if you have read any of Wilhelm Reich’s books?

    My understanding is that the orgone is collected as a means to regenerate our red blood cells. Even if the orgone device is used to clear a room, I would like it to be consistent with being healthy for my body. In this sense we must consider that our blood contains Iron and carbon.

    Therefore steel seems to be the best metal to use, as it is made from iron and carbon.

    I was also wondering about the layering effect the accumulators have. [There are alternating layers of organic and metallic components. The inner most layer being metal, and the exterior layer being the organic material, and alternating layers in between. In the centre there is a chamber for the orgone to oscillate between the metallic walls] –

    – is this achieved with a pendant with only one inner layer of metal shavings in the centre of one layer of organic resin?

    • Hi Matt and thanks for your comment. You’ve raised some interesting points 🙂

      I have read excerpts of Reich’s books but not from cover to cover – it’s on my to-do list! Your post inspired me to read up a bit on orgone and blood cells. Here’s an excerpt, for those that might be reading this who want to know more:

      When Reich was studying the bions, he also observed that red blood cells, when not fixed and stained, also disintegrate into bions like the grass in water. In addition, when red blood cells are looked at in an alive state, an energy field is visible around them and Reich felt they were the carriers of orgone energy as well as oxygen throughout the body. He further observed that when people were ill, the energy field around the blood cells was smaller, and they broke down more rapidly into either bions or numerous, smaller T-bacilli that indicated a toxic condition in the body. (“T” stands for “tod”; the German word for death.) If the production of large amounts of T-bacilli continued, they, in turn, were not only a result, but became a cause of furthering the disease process.

      From Orgonics

      I think there is a lot more to orgone than just regenerating blood cells – after all, plants benefit from it too and they don’t have red blood cells. My understanding of orgone and orgonite is that it works on the etheric level, which is less tangible than our physical reality, but examining red blood cells may be one of the best ways to understand the effect that this etheric energy has on a material level.

      I have heard a few people say that they like the feel of steel in their orgonite. I recently started using it as I got hold of some really good shavings. But I still feel that using a mix of metals is the way to go. Making orgonite depends a whole lot on intuition and observing the effects, since there is very little scientific research behind any subject that has to do with subtle energy. We try out different things, we see how they feel to us and how they affect others.

      Orgonite is radically different from the ORACS that Reich made. Of course, the outside coating of orgonite is made from organic materials, but it doesn’t need to be layered in exactly the same way. The shavings, which contain small amounts of resin between them, function as layers.

  7. Hi, I have seen some stunning pieces with what looks to be a copper spiral running upward through the centre, (esp. Pyramid shapes) either loosely coiled around a large quartz point even wrapping around the base of a smaller crystal right at the top. I feel as though this may result in a process similar to an electric charge – is this correct or wishful thinking? Also can this technique be applied to personal pieces such as pendants and does the direction it is pointing matter? Thank you!!

    • Hi Skye,

      Yes I have seen some of those too and they are quite stunning 🙂 I personally don’t use coils in my pendants. Coils send the energy in certain directions (depending on the coil), and I don’t feel that this is needed for personal pieces. From my experience with energy healing modalities (Reiki, Quantum Touch,etc) all healing energy has an innate intelligence and automatically goes where it is needed the most, unless it is blocked or manipulated in some way. Intuitively, I feel that I would rather put my trust in the energy to heal what needs to be healed, than manipulate it to be sent in certain directions. The only exception to this for me would be a charging plate.

      Again I have to say that this is just how I feel, I am not criticising people who make orgonite with coils – and if it works well for them then that’s great 🙂

  8. I put ornament in my Orgonite and they turned a bit rusting in a month…
    But I still have some ornament left that are not used and those have no sign of rusting

    Do u have experience on that?

    Also, the color of the one I made with mixing epoxy and copper powder turns kind of dark after 3months ….
    Those I wore are even darker…
    I nail polished them…

    How can I prevent this from happening again?

    • I find that some ornaments do change colour, mostly silver ones. I have a suspicion that the ornaments are actually made of brass and coated with silver, and the resin somehow reacts with the silver. That’s why I mostly use bronze ornaments now, or silver-coloured ones that are made from a silver-coloured metal and not just silver-coated.

      I’m afraid I don’t have much experience with epoxy. I know it yellows over time when exposed to heat or sunlight, perhaps it could be something to do with that? Coat it in varnish to protect it from UV damage.

  9. Hi I absolutely love your orgonite – they are so inspirational! I am in the UK too and I am struggling so hard to find some aluminium shavings… could you be so kind and let me know where you get yours from?

    Best wishes,
    Juliet

    • Thanks for the kind words Juliet 🙂
      I get mine from a local machine shop, if you have any near you then ask them to give or sell you some of their leftover shavings. Last I checked, there were also people selling metal shavings on Ebay.

      Good luck!

  10. How do you cope with the smelling of the Orgonite? Mine still stinks when I hold it close
    I usually use perfume or anything smell good to cover their smell….but I would love to hear how other deal with it if any

    Xoxo

    • Hi Tracy,
      I use water clear casting resin, which doesn’t smell much after it has fully cured. I used to use regular resin (the one that hardens to a yellow-brownish colour) and it did smell for a considerable period of time afterwards. If it still smells of resin, it’s still offgassing. Put your orgonite in the sun for some days to get them to offgas faster. I have also heard of people adding essential oils such as lavender to the resin while mixing it. But I think the best is to use proper casting resin if you are making personal pieces to wear or have around the house.
      Good luck!

  11. Thanks!!!

    And how would you answer if someone ask you how many meters would an Orgonite cover?
    Some people want to know how many they need for a home/office. I don’t know how to answer them. I always tell them to place the Orgonite near them as it would be more effective if someone is closed to an Orgonite
    But apparently they want to know how many meter one Orgonite can cover

    • Honestly, it all depends. A house in the middle of the city near phone towers will need more than a house out in the countryside. I say start with one medium-sized piece (muffin size) per room, placed near something which generates EMF such as a computer or tv.

  12. I’m wondering if I can use zinc? I have some scrap from work… Rheinzink- “The International Association for Electrosmog Research (IGEF e.V.) has examined the level of protection offered by RHEINZINK. The result was that it screens out over 99% of electromagnetic radiation present. These values measured by instrumentation have been confirmed by biological measurements performed on humans and demonstrate a harmonious effect on the heart, circulation and nervous system, in particular when earthed. This also reduces the levels of stress on the organism.”

    Can I use this?

    • As far as I know, any metal is ok (although the emitted energy feels different according to the metal), but I haven’t used zinc. Anyone else want to chime in?

      If you try it, please report back with the results 🙂

  13. Hello and thanks for all the posts.

    I heard about Orgon at – see podcasts.
    http://www.ourjourneyhome.com.au

    If you are on the truth path you MUST study
    George Kavassivalis – Amazing. See on Youtube or above. very important for the real truth. I won’t try to explain but his work will bend your mind and break you through the synthetic universe and the matrix.

    http://www.amazon.com/Our-Universal-Journey-George-Kavassilas/dp/0987261509/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1407637845&sr=8-1&keywords=our+journey+home

    I am starting my orgo adventure today. I went to the local HomeDepot or Lowes or grocery store and got the shavings from the KEY locksmith grinder in the store.

    I asked what the metal was and the old timer suggested it was steel. I thought it was brass. (see quote below) I also got true steel shavings from the same stores where they cut pipe. Be careful with the pipe steel as it’s coarse and can cut you. There should be some rubber gloves at the cutting station. I just put one on and put it in my ziplock. Thus I got a good bunch of brass / nickle fine material from the key cutter and some real steel shavings from the pipe cutter.

    My objective is to build some basic pucks for my. I am going to layer the fine shavings and disburse the heavier shavings in with a copper coil. and bbs at the top. seems to make sense. I have the bondo binder material also from home depot. I like the idea fo bee’s wax although more fragile.

    I am not concerned with looks.
    I plan on hitting the local antennas with pucks.
    http://www.antennasearch.com

    Reference quote

    “Most keys are made of brass or nickle-plated brass. Nickle plating is a shiny silver color. Some house keys, such as the ones supplied with Schlage locks, among others, are an alloy of brass and nickle called “nickle-silver”.

    Steel is rarely used in keys, and I have never seen a steel house key. Steel is too hard, and will cause undo wear on the lock cylinders. Cylinders are made from brass or zinc, but not steel, because steel rusts, and rust would quickly ruin a steel cylinder. “

    • Thanks for posting about your experiences Jimmy. I would assume it was brass too – I haven’t heard of steel keys.

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